Chris_W

Lenders that look at retirement assets for inv property HELOC

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Long-time podcast listener, first post!

Does anyone have experience with qualifying for a HELOC associated with an investment property that was able to use retirement accounts in the debt-to-income calculation? Don't want to waste time and then not qualify at the end of the process (happened last year). Hoping to find a couple lenders that others have had success with Asset Backed Qualification. I have enough Roth-basis funds to qualify if included in the income calc. Found some lenders online but they require age > 59.5 or force you to convert a retirement account into an official income stream. FYI… I have a 72(t) setup with another Traditional IRA, so have already done that.

54 years old (wife 52), currently supplementing cash flow with Roth-basis funds. Might need a little more to get there. Focusing on investment property to keep investment assets lower for FAFSA SAI calculation (2 kids in college).

Thanks in advance.

Chris_W

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[+] Roberto Sánchez · 2.5w
Roberto Sánchez Roberto Sánchez · 2.5w

This is not something that I have personally done, but in every discussion that I have heard around using financial assets as collateral or backing for a loan there is always a caveat that the assets can't be in a retirement account. I think it is something to do with the fact that the lender would have no legal recourse to seize the collateral assets out of a retirement account in the case of a default. YMMV.

[+] Nathgard · 2.5w
Nathgard Nathgard · 2.5w

Mortgage broker here. I’m aware of a HELOC that operates similarly to a bank statement loan. They use bank deposits as income if they appear to be semi regular over the last 12 months. But the rates are close to 10%. 70% LTV for investment properties.

[+] FabFI · 2.4w
FabFI FabFI · 2.4w

I have an investment property but never thought of taking a HELOC against it. I instead took a HELOC against my primary residence. Doing so may simplify the qualifying process.

[+] Khavelka · 2.4w
Khavelka Khavelka · 2.4w

Hi Chris,

In my experience, finding a lender willing to offer a HELOC against an investment property will likely prove to be a challenge. Most will only do HELOC's on a primary residence. We are FIRE and finding that lenders really scrutinize us on any loans. It should not be an issue based on income/assets, but we aren't cookie-cutter buyers, and we don't fall under the normal parameters. We have been able to get the loans but only after providing a LOT of documentation and letting our full financials be available to the lender. When we were working W-2 jobs, we got approved for loans with ease. We have done 3 loans since retiring and it's a different world. It sounds like we are invested differently, most of our assets aren't in retirement funds. However, I think that ultimately the loans we have been approved for have boiled down to underwriting feeling confident in loaning by using a combo of assets and income. We used a local broker/lender and they were mortgages, not HELOCs. My experience is that it boils down to finding the right lender to work with; Keep looking until you find the one.

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